I was 20 years old and at Bethel for just a couple of months. I was really depressed, as I was finding out what Bethel was really all about. I drank a whole bottle of Cold Duck, after a long hot subway ride back to Brooklyn. They don't even make that discussing stuff anymore. The story is all in my book "New Boy"
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When Was The First Time You Ever Got Drunk?
by 1234 ini was 20 years old and at bethel for just a couple of months.
i was really depressed, as i was finding out what bethel was really all about.
i drank a whole bottle of cold duck, after a long hot subway ride back to brooklyn.
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Midweek Meeting looooooooong prayers.
by Davros inone thing that aggravates me is long concluding prayers, especially at the midweek meeting.
you work all day, rush home, grab a quick bite, dress up in meeting clothes.
then, go to the meeting.
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1234
I use to thing of it this way. If you gave a 5 min. prayer and there was a 120 people in the audience you just wasted ten hours of people's lives.
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A new army boy missing his parents?
by sinboi injust imagine.
boy who for 16 years have been taught to live for god’s kingdom, be no part of the world and not to kill, been called up for military service and have to put on the army uniform….. i thought i was prepared for it.
but the moment when i was given my army uniform, the truth fell on me.
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1234
Sorry buddy but I believe the Jehovah's Witnesses got this one right. Getting a job in a "kill or be killed" business doesn't sound to bright.
1. You might get yourself killed
2. You might have to kill other people not all of whom might be males but women and children too.
3. Having engaging in that activity (idem 2.) you might come home PTSD.
Five of my class mates did and ending up taking their own lives.
This is the ONLY reason I was glad to be raised as a JW.
Good luck in your new career.
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Midweek Meeting looooooooong prayers.
by Davros inone thing that aggravates me is long concluding prayers, especially at the midweek meeting.
you work all day, rush home, grab a quick bite, dress up in meeting clothes.
then, go to the meeting.
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By the way the record is Knorr at the end of the 1958 convention in New York City almost 45 mins.
Yes, I had that problem too up to 19 years ago.Then something strange happened I stop going to these stupid meetings after 50 years of them.
"Doctor it hurts when I put my finger in my eye!"
"Don't put your finger in your eye!"
I see......
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1 Corinthians 15:26
by Doug Mason inyou will die.
i will die.
those who have gone before us, the great and the small, the powerful and the weak, have shared the common fate of dying.
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1234
The big mystery all through the book "Catch 22" was "Snowden's secret."
In the end of the book we all find out what it was.
Snowden's secret is that we are all made out of flesh and blood...thus mortal.
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Quarantine, A Time for Self Reflection
by 1234 in"are they keeping you busy?".
i'm not quite sure what this means but maybe you have been asked this question in the pass.
as in busyness is some kind of sign that things are going good.
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"Are they keeping you busy?"
I'm not quite sure what this means but maybe you have been asked this question in the pass. As in busyness is some kind of sign that things are going good.
Yes, people's lives are full of lots of activities, school, work, shopping, taking kids to soccer ect. and hell, if you are a Jehovah's Witness drop in hundreds of hours of meetings, field service ect.
Years seem to fly by as busy days turn into full weeks, as the months fly off the calendar.
Yes, "life" kept us busy. How much of these activities were really important? Of course my 50 years and 1000's of hours as a Jehovah's Witness, accomplished a lot...lol
But the whole concept of working fifty weeks a year at a job that was not that enjoyable so you could spend two weeks on vacation doing what you really wanted do, didn't seem to make much sense either.
Of course as a Witness there could never be "real" happiness in this old system. True happiness is always in the distant future. Pie in the sky when you die.
The journey should be the enjoyable part, not the destination.
My 40 year old son who has moved back in with me wants to bag the whole thing and move to south America and travel around there for awhile. I told him he should do it.
Being a good Jehovah's Witness I always did what I was suppose to do. I never had a real childhood. Pioneered and went to Bethel. Got married the week after Bethel and went to work. Fifty years later here we are.
Now there is plenty of time to look back on all that "busy" work I was doing.
So what is my advise?
If something doesn't feel right don't do it. If it's a marriage, a job, a religion....Your "gut feeling" will never be wrong. Your mind will be wrong often but your heart never will be. Going against your "gut feeling" will only create a life full of regrets.
Namaste my friends
Keith
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Flipper’s apostafest in view of Covid-19
by Biahi inis it still going to take place?
maybe we could all participate via zoom.
2 can play at this game.
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1234
Where and when was it suppose to happened? Things have opened up here in Arizona
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Thoughts on a WT Reformation
by Fr.RAS ini posted what follows elsewhere but thought it might be of interest here as well.
my forst posting here so i apologize in advance if this is not in the correct place.. a tribute to ray franz (on what would have been his 98th birthday) and to ed dunlap, his collaborator.
last week would have marked the 98th birthday of a man for whom most of us here have high regard.
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I knew both men. Ed Dunlap was my primarily school instructor when I was at Bethel from 1970-1974.
So to answer your question after your long talk/walk memory lane and after being a Jehovah's Witness for over 50 years I have your answer to ...
"Imagine what the cult would look like today had the Society worked itself out of its self-insularity by following Ray Franz vs Fred Franz in 1980/81."
It would still look like a CULT! Just a mutated one. With thousands of suicides, pedophiles and wrongful deaths that would still not have been prevented! They would still be blood guilty! Even if they did everything Ray and Ed said.
Keith Casarona
P.S. I sent you a private message.
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Education vs JW?
by galaxia_moon ini am 15 years old and recently just doubting this whole religion that was introduced to me when i was very small from a very good family friend.
doubt obviously comes with shame and guilt and i hate those feelings because it feels like i'm betraying this whole organization that i grew up in.... anyways, i've been doing research and found that jehovah's witnesses dislike/shun kids who attend colleges & universities that are more than 4 years long?
have you heard of this?
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Yes, neither me or my children attend college because of the harassment that was going on at the time about "higher education."
Jehovah's Witnesses like to keep their people stupid as do most religions, however they have taken it to a higher level.
So my friend it's time to make the choice "the red or blue pill"
Keith Casarona
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Weekly Meeting Importance Being Reduced - Your Thoughts?
by JWTom ini am pimo, but now have 40+ years of being a jw as i was raised in a 3rd generation family of witnesses and continue to fake my way through things - fading as i can.. for the vast majority of my time as a jw, the meetings were the central focus for all jws to get teaching, association, information and so on.
nothing was more important than being at the meetings!
over the last 20 years starting with the elimination of the weekly book study in homes and continuing down to today - my opinion is that the value/purpose of the weekly meetings continues to be diluted or minimized.
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Well the "world" is changing my friend. It is not just changing. It's changing a lot! You are still in a religion that was formed in the 1800's and though it's changing also it is not changing enough to keep up with modern day thinking. It's still stuck in old dogma.The organization could become a totally a video church with with the latest technological, however the content is old and dated and in many ways very toxic, with it's concepts of shunning, sex, pedophiles, (two witness rule) blood transfusions ect ect.
Bottom line they are losing most of their young people. You don't see a massive growth with the Quakers and Amish either....Yes they are still around and the reason is the only thing that is making more/new Quakers, Amish and Jehovah Witnesses is them having sex with themselves.
You might want to read my book "New Boy" I was in for over 50 years and tried to fade too.
Good Luck my friend but your in a dying religion
Keith Casarona